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		<title>By: This Blog Is Now Over And Done With &#171; The eBook Test</title>
		<link>http://alanpritt.com/blog/2009/09/17/stfu-and-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-22385</link>
		<dc:creator>This Blog Is Now Over And Done With &#171; The eBook Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So it&#8217;s time for me to go away now and do the work that needs to be done. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan Szrama</title>
		<link>http://alanpritt.com/blog/2009/09/17/stfu-and-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19979</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Szrama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good food for thought.  Will keep that in mind!</description>
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		<title>By: Alan Pritt</title>
		<link>http://alanpritt.com/blog/2009/09/17/stfu-and-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19923</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Pritt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan, I think what you can point to is Ubercart 2.0. It&#039;s that which allows you to ask others to get on board with building the next version and see them respond. You can&#039;t herd cats around nothing and you&#039;re not.

Also, it doesn&#039;t literally mean you stop communicating. d7uc.org is about discussing plans, organising and getting things done. Not setting the grand vision as much as organising the team. I think you do need to sell the changes to other developers and take full advantage to as much qualified feedback as possible. But that is all involved in the practical effort of getting the job done. 

To non-contributors I&#039;d try to talk more about Ubercart 2.0 instead of the future. And with contributors I&#039;d focus more on what is being worked on now rather than the long term vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan, I think what you can point to is Ubercart 2.0. It&#8217;s that which allows you to ask others to get on board with building the next version and see them respond. You can&#8217;t herd cats around nothing and you&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>Also, it doesn&#8217;t literally mean you stop communicating. d7uc.org is about discussing plans, organising and getting things done. Not setting the grand vision as much as organising the team. I think you do need to sell the changes to other developers and take full advantage to as much qualified feedback as possible. But that is all involved in the practical effort of getting the job done. </p>
<p>To non-contributors I&#8217;d try to talk more about Ubercart 2.0 instead of the future. And with contributors I&#8217;d focus more on what is being worked on now rather than the long term vision.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Szrama</title>
		<link>http://alanpritt.com/blog/2009/09/17/stfu-and-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19896</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Szrama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminds me a lot of Dagny Taggart in Ayn Rand&#039;s Atlas Shrugged. Early on in the book she gets in the position where she suddenly has to pull a miraculous railroad construction job and is confronted by the person whose business depends on her success. He shows up thinking she&#039;s going to give him the vision speech, but she simply says leave me alone and I&#039;ll deliver.  And deliver she does!  For her, it was definitely all about just doing something regardless of the gaggle of observers and triumphing in her success.

When thinking about the Ubercore, I really wanted to try and apply this principle... it&#039;s just a lot harder in a diverse community effort.  : (  I&#039;m personally motivated by the desire to write good software and let it speak for itself, but with a community initiative I have to bring everyone in before my house is in order.  Hence the jumbled state of d7uc.org... I would&#039;ve much rather launched with a design document and a well ordered process.  Now I&#039;m going to be stuck playing catch-up to my vision.  ; )

But c&#039;est la vie. I suppose as it turns out, since the vision really involves getting people on board and taking ownership in the code, the mere fact that people are on board is a result I can point to.  We&#039;ll see what happens over the next 6 months... : D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me a lot of Dagny Taggart in Ayn Rand&#8217;s Atlas Shrugged. Early on in the book she gets in the position where she suddenly has to pull a miraculous railroad construction job and is confronted by the person whose business depends on her success. He shows up thinking she&#8217;s going to give him the vision speech, but she simply says leave me alone and I&#8217;ll deliver.  And deliver she does!  For her, it was definitely all about just doing something regardless of the gaggle of observers and triumphing in her success.</p>
<p>When thinking about the Ubercore, I really wanted to try and apply this principle&#8230; it&#8217;s just a lot harder in a diverse community effort.  : (  I&#8217;m personally motivated by the desire to write good software and let it speak for itself, but with a community initiative I have to bring everyone in before my house is in order.  Hence the jumbled state of d7uc.org&#8230; I would&#8217;ve much rather launched with a design document and a well ordered process.  Now I&#8217;m going to be stuck playing catch-up to my vision.  ; )</p>
<p>But c&#8217;est la vie. I suppose as it turns out, since the vision really involves getting people on board and taking ownership in the code, the mere fact that people are on board is a result I can point to.  We&#8217;ll see what happens over the next 6 months&#8230; : D</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cane</title>
		<link>http://alanpritt.com/blog/2009/09/17/stfu-and-do-it/comment-page-1/#comment-19108</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha.  While I was reading this, I was wondering if you&#039;d seen that tweet and if I&#039;d have to dig it up.  I&#039;m glad you did see it.  It&#039;s a hard lesson to learn.  Makes me look like I&#039;m doing nothing but wasting my time all day on Twitter, but better that than announcing things that might never happen -- possibly one after the other!

Also, when things collapse -- and they sometimes do -- you don&#039;t want people asking you, &quot;Oi, you said you were going to do X, so how&#039;s that coming along then?&quot;  Ouch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha.  While I was reading this, I was wondering if you&#8217;d seen that tweet and if I&#8217;d have to dig it up.  I&#8217;m glad you did see it.  It&#8217;s a hard lesson to learn.  Makes me look like I&#8217;m doing nothing but wasting my time all day on Twitter, but better that than announcing things that might never happen &#8212; possibly one after the other!</p>
<p>Also, when things collapse &#8212; and they sometimes do &#8212; you don&#8217;t want people asking you, &#8220;Oi, you said you were going to do X, so how&#8217;s that coming along then?&#8221;  Ouch!</p>
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